1. Anonymous says

    Kelkel you say above: “Infertility is a real disease and should be treated like one…like any other person with cancer or heart disease or diabetes….they should be covered by insurance.”

    This is a really stupid thing to say. Cancer, diabetes– these are diseases you die from. Nobody dies from not having a child.
    The desire to procreate is a desire, not a need.

  2. Liza says

    How about you do a little research on this instead of just reading what the WM gives you? There’s plenty of information on the web that will give you current and accurate information about these progresm. And while it’s ok to disagree with it, your argument is full of fallacies and you are poorly informed about infertility, adoption, and surrogacy.

    And yes, wouldn’t it be nice to educate them and get them “real” jobs. Do you know anything about India? Do you know how many men have jobs that can actually provide for their families? Do you anything about the availability of education and job training there? Obviously not, since otherwise you wouldn’t post something so full of inaccurate and false information.

  3. Mia says

    Oh yeah..for those of you who think these women are making their own choice and can choose not to do this…think again. In a poor country where some of the women are probably not educated or don’t have skills, they probably have no choice.

    Instead of having these women use their bodies to make money, why not educate them and help them find real jobs.

    That’s my last word on the topic.

  4. Mia says

    This is the most awlful thing I’ve ever heard of. Wealthy people who are lazy and don’t want to go through the pain of giving birth are getting poor women from other countries to do the work for them. And I DOUBT the women are making a whole lot of money. It’s more likely the outsourcing company in India that is making the money.

    I get sick and tired of women being exploited.

    People who can’t have children….god’s telling you something. Maybe you shouldn’t have children or maybe you should ADOPT. There are plenty of children all over this planet who need warm and loving homes. GET ONE!

    Then there are the physical issues with this that I won’t even get into in terms of the health of these women in 3rd world counties and their lack of healthcare and diseases that run through these countries that don’t even exit in the US anymore. Yeah…I can see it now…I’m sorry Mr. and Mrs. so and so…but your baby has blank blank blank….we haven’t seen that here since the 1930s but in India it still exist and your baby’s mother was exposed to it in her youth. There is no way I would do such a thing. No way.

    You don’t know what the baby is exposed to while growing in the womb. It brings shame on the family of the woman who is doing it. I’m sure the women are not doing this because they want to make some foriegn couple happy. Some may be forced into it like they are forced into marriages. They probably don’t get much of that money made and this is just plain ole exploitation.

    Anyone who thinks this is a great idea is just NUTS! And I know I’m not the only person here who thinks this.

  5. Liza says

    That’s unlikely to happen. Both the biological parents and surrogate mother sign a fairly elaborate legal contract prior to the pregnancy, that is recognized by Indian law. They can’t keep the baby because it isn’t theirs.

    Also, Indian society is different from ours. Things that are readily accepted here result in being stigmatized there. However, unlike some other things, doing this gives these women and their families an opportunity to change their futures in a hugely significant way. Imagine your husband making $50 a month working full time and then having someone offer you upwards of $5,000 for something like this. For many families the benefits far outweigh the risks.

  6. Ali says

    i know,but they look so pitiful all covered up like that in fear of if someone sees them. their fmailies are going to know something is up when they disappear for 9 months and come back with money…. also, what if they decide to keep the baby? good luck getting it back from india. i think this is a disaster waiting to happen.
    they mean well,but it could turn into a baby m.

  7. Liza says

    Well Ali, it isn’t just a “desire”. That trivializes it.

    But the fact is that these women can make more money doing this than they would otherwise make in an entire lifetime. It could be the difference between feeding their children or having to beg on the streets. While the amount they are being paid would be substandard for a gestational surrogate in the U.S., that isn’t the case in India. With proper standards and safeguards in place from exploitation, it really is no different than using a gestational surrogate here.

  8. Ali says

    oh liza, that is just awful! i am also sure their families will wonder where they got money from… i would never be selfish like that. that is really mocking the poor i feel. paying 4,000-7,000 and having them risk everything they have is just awful.that is like making someone a slave.
    i would neevr want to harm anyone and rip someone off for a desire.

  9. Liza says

    Their faces are covered because in Indian society these women and their families would be shunned for what they are doing. It is merely a way to protect their idenities and that of their families.

  10. 2teens3beans says

    And what’s with that photo? They are all covered up as if they are wearing burquas… with their heads bowed. Are those the surrogates? I do not like that photo at all.

  11. 2teens3beans says

    It seems ok on the surface but I see a couple of red flag possibilities. What happens if India changes their laws suddenly and some families are unable to take their children out of India? What happens if a surrogate decides to keep the baby? It’s a situation which has occured in the states before and would be a nightmare if the baby was a citizen of another country. Are these babies Indian citizens? The article doesn’t really go into that.
    It does seem that the women are being well cared for, which is very good… but if more groups jump on the bandwagon I can see exploitation happening easily.

  12. joey says

    What’s strange about IVF?? I think the WM finds it strange that “Indian” women are the surrogates.

  13. Julie says

    I think it’s great! It gives infertile couples hope for a baby, and it greatly improves the quality of life for these wonderful surrogates! I support it 100%!

  14. Liza says

    I think the only concerns people should have about this is the possibly exploitation of these women because they live in a poverty stricken country where women are undervalued and discriminated against.

    That said, I believe with the proper safe guards in place, that this is no different than a women in North America or Europe being a gestational surrogate for another woman, except that in these cases, it has the potential for being the difference between debilitating poverty and a woman being able to provide for her family.

    We should be more concerned with the kind of poverty that will make women do something that will potentially get them shunned from society in order to feed their families.

  15. Ali says

    the fees are cheaper,but i think it is taken advantage of the poor. they should be paid much more then that! that is alot of work they are going through. also, aids is very bad in india… i think people get very selfish and out of control.

    if i was unable to have children then oh well. it would not have been meant to be. people are starting to really scare me.

  16. Jx2 says

    There is nothing unusal about this article. If you have ever read the book “A Handmaid’s Tale” written by Margaret Atwood (Canadian writer), a very similar situation occurs in the novel. This novel was part of our high school curriculum…and it was not banned , I might add – which I’m sure would have occured in an American southern state high school. Literature should not be banned from schools.

  17. dori says

    This is a wonderful thing they are doing. It’s done here as well. I don’t understand why my last comment is awaiting moderation. Is giving b-i-r-t-h- not allowed in here now but swearing and talk of bodily functions stated by teenagers is allowed? Webmistress when are you going to wake up?

  18. dori says

    It’s not only giving birth but all kinds of surgeries Hip and knee replacements as well. It’s much cheaper there.

  19. Kelkel says

    although it sounds strange, its no different than here in the USA except that the surrogates in India are being well looked after every day of their pregnancy and the fees are cheaper. IVF in other countries is cheaper too. I wish the US would do the same! We are currently embarking on IVF, hopefully by March, and using PGD(pre implantation genetic diagnosis) because of my miscarriages. Hoping to get normal embryos to implant and get and stay pregnant. It is VERY costly…about $15000 for one try. Luckily, my insurance is covering most of it. But if that doesn’t work..we are done. If we had the money to hire a gestational carrier and try it 3 or 4 times…costing about $100,000…we definitely would. Some say having a child is something you want to do…for a lot of people…it is a deep down physical and emotional “need”. Infertility is a real disease and should be treated like one…like any other person with cancer or heart disease or diabetes….they should be covered by insurance. If that was the case, maybe we wouldn’t have to go to other countries for medical care! I know people who have moved to certain states that mandate infertility coverage just so they can have a baby. Or taken 2-3 trips to Europe to do IVF because even with the traveling it is still cheaper. I know one woman who moved to Canada because of the universal health care. She had to wait…but she did get to do IVF and she did get her baby.

    So, although the story in India seems strange…it is totally understandable. At least to me it is.

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